Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, who defended President Donald Trump’s claim that he didn’t use the word “shithole” to describe African nations, will testify under oath before Congress, where she will face Sen. Dick Durbin, who claims that Trump made the racist remarks.
Appearing on CBS News on Tuesday, Nielsen told host John Dickerson that she was in the meeting with Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL), who said Trump made the “shithole” remark and said that “he would rather take immigrants from Norway.”
According to Nielsen, Trump’s remarks had nothing to do with the fact that most Norwegians are white.
“He was just using that as a place that accepts immigrants in part based on merit,” she insisted.
Dickerson noted that Nielsen will have to face Durbin under oath on Tuesday when she testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee.
“I have no problem repeating what I’ve said,” Nielsen shrugged. “That’s not a word that I remember being used. It was very impassioned, people on all sides felt very strongly about this issue. There were a lot of conversations happening at the same time.”
“That’s not a particular phrase that I heard,” she told CBS.
Watch the video below from CBS.
On Sunday, during an interview on “Fox News Sunday,” Nielsen was pressed by host Chris Wallace to comment on Trump’s “shithole” remarks.
Even after Fox News had verified the version that Sen. Dick Durbin told the press about Trump’s shithole comments, Nielsen, who was at the meeting, just couldn’t remember.
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