On Tuesday, French President Emmanuel Macron got into a heated exchange with President Donald Trump at the NATO summit after Trump told the French leader he could send him some “ISIS fighters.” Macron was also declared that the terrorist group had not entirely been defeated, a break with a common declaration from Trump.
“Would you like some nice ISIS fighters? I can give them to you,” Trump said with a slight smile at the meeting, which was carried live on cable news. “You can take every one you want.”
“Let’s be serious,” Macron replied sternly, reasoning that most ISIS fighters came from Syria, Iraq and Iran and disputing Trump’s common refrain that the terrorist group had been defeated.
Trump has insisted that he alone defeated ISIS and complained that European countries have been unwilling to accept ISIS fighters the U.S. had captured.
Macron shot back, declaring that ISIS has not been defeated and its fighters are everywhere in Iraq and Syria.
The French president insisted that the number of European ISIS fighters was a “tiny” part of the overall problem of addressing destabilization in the region. He was also adamant that the terrorist group had not entirely been defeated, a break with a common declaration from Trump.
“I think the number one priority, because it’s not finished, is it to get rid of ISIS,” Macron said.
During the meeting, Trump also emphasized his “very good relationship” with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan after Macron noted disagreements between Turkey and the rest of the alliance on their definition of terrorism.
“I can only say we have a very good relationship with Turkey and president Erdogan,” Trump said when asked about Turkey’s standing in NATO. “We have a very good relationship.”
Macron interjected shortly thereafter: “We have lost cooperation with Turkey.”
The French president demanded “clarification” from Ankara on how it could be a member of the NATO alliance and also purchase Russian S-400 missile systems amid NATO opposition. Macron also said Turkey wanted to “blow up” the summit if the other alliance members did not recognize Ankara’s view of groups that are terrorists.
When Trump suggested that his predecessor, President Obama, pushed Turkey toward purchasing the Russian missiles by refusing to sell Ankara the Patriot missile, Macron shot back, saying it was Turkey’s “own decision” to purchase the missiles after Europe offered another option that was compliant with NATO.
Trump was non-committal on reaching a deal to avert U.S. tariffs set to be imposed on $2.4 billion in French imports. He expressed frustration with the French tax, which he sees as targeting U.S. companies.
“They’re American companies,” he said. “The tech companies you’re talking about, they’re not my favorite people because they’re not exactly for me, but that’s OK. I don’t care, they’re American companies. And we want to tax American companies. We want to tax them. That’s not for somebody else to tax them.”
The two men came into office within months of each other and enjoyed a close relationship. The two famously shared a lengthy and intense handshake at one of their first meetings, and Trump later hosted Macron at the White House for a state visit.
But Macron has become more outspoken as he seeks to take the mantle in Europe in the face of changing governments there and Trump’s unpredictability.
President Trump and President Macron trade barbs over handling of foreign ISIS fighters:
“Would you like some nice ISIS fighters? I can give them to you. You can take every one you want.” pic.twitter.com/n7ICITIozD
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) December 3, 2019